The Better Learning Podcast is about improving education at all levels - Schools (public, charter, private, independent), Higher Education, & Corporate/Adult Learning. The major theme is to break down the silos and learn from others doing innovative things in education. We highlight innovative programs & initiatives, lessons learned, improvements to educational space, and real-world tactics while getting a deeper understanding of the people behind the innovation. Our guests include Heads of Schools, Superintendents, Principals, Entrepreneurs, Non-profit leaders and other innovators. Hosted by Kevin Stoller, CEO of & author of Creating Better Learning Environments.



June 8, 2022

Welcome to Season 6 of the Better Learning Podcast! Our fifth episode in the Season is a special one!

The Better Learning Podcast is now partnered with the Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) to help facilitate more conversations with educational leaders and change-makers across the country to help support their mission of improving the places where children learn. The conversations that are held on the podcast are meant to bring educational leaders at all levels real-world issues and solutions that listeners can take with them to the district, school, and even community level.

The Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) was first established in 1921 as the National Council on Schoolhouse Construction (NCSC) then becoming Council of Education Facility Planners International (CEFPI) in 1971. It took its current name in 2015 and has since been leading innovation at the intersection of learning and place. With the Better Learning podcast seeking to highlight innovative programs and initiatives, A4LE aspires to connect the Better Learning audience with like minded leaders that are helping lead the change.

Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at


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If you are interested in being on the show or know someone who would be a great guest, please connect with Kevin Stoller.