The Better Learning Podcast is about improving education at all levels - Schools (public, charter, private, independent), Higher Education, & Corporate/Adult Learning. The major theme is to break down the silos and learn from others doing innovative things in education. We highlight innovative programs & initiatives, lessons learned, improvements to educational space, and real-world tactics while getting a deeper understanding of the people behind the innovation. Our guests include Heads of Schools, Superintendents, Principals, Entrepreneurs, Non-profit leaders and other innovators. Hosted by Kevin Stoller, CEO of & author of Creating Better Learning Environments.



October 19, 2022

There is an urgency to support our students, teachers, and communities with learning environments that heal, nurture, and inspire. So how can our schools remake themselves to benefit health, learning, and feelings of belonging?

Our guest Claire Latané (la-ta-nay) is a writer, ecological designer, and Associate Professor of Landscape Architecture at California State Polytechnic University, Pomona (Cal Poly Pomona) and takes a deep dive into this question. She applies landscape architecture and neuroscience research connecting designed environments with mental health, safety, academic success, and physical and social outcomes to create healthier school and community environments.

Her book Schools That Heal: Design with Mental Health in Mind, was released by Island Press last summer. In 2021 she founded the Collaborative for Healthy and Inclusive Learning Environments through Cal Poly Pomona’s Lyle Center for Regenerative Studies.

Season 6, Episode 21

Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at


If you are interested in being on the show or know someone who would be a great guest, please connect with Kevin Stoller.