The Better Learning Podcast is about improving education at all levels - Schools (public, charter, private, independent), Higher Education, & Corporate/Adult Learning. The major theme is to break down the silos and learn from others doing innovative things in education. We highlight innovative programs & initiatives, lessons learned, improvements to educational space, and real-world tactics while getting a deeper understanding of the people behind the innovation. Our guests include Heads of Schools, Superintendents, Principals, Entrepreneurs, Non-profit leaders and other innovators. Hosted by Kevin Stoller, CEO of & author of Creating Better Learning Environments.



February 3, 2021

Kevin Stoller is joined by Dr. Brenton White, Superintendent of A+ Charter Schools in Dallas, TX to discuss the personal side of leading through chaos. Dr. White's positive perspective and self-awareness is a great lesson for all leaders.

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