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June 5, 2024

How did your parents influence your career decisions? Do you think their guidance helped or hindered your career path?

Were you given opportunities to explore different career options in school? How did that impact your career choices?

What do you think is more important when hiring: a candidate's educational background or their passion and skills? Why?

Do you think today's educational system adequately prepares students for the future? How can it be improved?

In the latest episode of the Better Learning Podcast, host Kevin Stoller engages in a thought-provoking conversation with Tyler Dugar, offering a unique blend of perspectives on education from both a parent's and a corporate world's viewpoint.

Reflecting on their own educational journeys, Kevin and Tyler delve into the critical mistakes they made when choosing their career paths, emphasizing the vital importance of allowing students to explore various career options and make informed decisions for themselves.


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  • Empower Students to Explore: Students should be encouraged to investigate different career paths and have the freedom to choose what excites them the most.

  • Realistic Career Views: Schools need to provide students with honest and comprehensive insights into various professions.

  • Preparation for Life After High School: The focus should be on equipping students with the necessary skills and knowledge to thrive post-graduation.

  • Hiring Criteria in the Modern Workplace: Companies are increasingly valuing skills, passion, and cultural fit over traditional indicators like college prestige.

  • Avoiding Career Pigeonholes: It's essential to recognize and nurture the unique talents and interests of each student, rather than forcing them into predefined career paths.

  • Generational Diversity: Each generation is diverse, and it's crucial to avoid broad generalizations when considering career guidance and development.


Tyler Dugar is a leader in the consumer products manufacturing industry and has had a front-row seat to the changes in new employees’ preparedness, values, and attitudes over the last twenty years. He is passionate about hiring and training in a way that enhances company culture while improving both the products brought to market and the lives of employees and their families. 


With four children between 12 and 18, educational preparedness is always top of mind.  Tyler lives outside of Nashville, Tennessee with his wife and children.




Sound Bites to Ponder:

"Don't necessarily do what others tell you to do. Play an active role in deciding your career path." 

"Expose kids to different career options and let them decide what makes them happy."

"The focus should be on skills, passion, and cultural fit when hiring, rather than the prestige of a college."



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Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at

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