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March 17, 2023

In this episode, host Kevin Stoller takes us to the 2023 AASA conference in San Antonio, Texas. Kevin talks to 19 school leaders and asks them two questions: (1) What Keeps You Up at Night? and (2) Who Are Your Most Trusted Advisors?

The answers to these questions are alarming and shed light on the challenges that school leaders face in their day-to-day work. From student safety to budget constraints, school leaders are grappling with a range of issues that affect not only their schools but also their personal lives.

Kevin and his guests discuss the need for a peer-to-peer network exclusively for school leaders. They explore the challenges of finding a supportive community that can help school leaders work through their issues while growing personally and professionally.

Throughout the episode, Kevin and his guests offer practical tips and advice on how to navigate the challenges of being a school leader. They share their experiences and insights on how to build a supportive network and find trusted advisors.

If you're a school leader who is looking for a supportive community to help you navigate the challenges of your role, then this episode is for you. Listen in as Kevin and his guests talk through the issues that are keeping school leaders up at night and explore where they can go for help.


Episode 115 of the Better Learning Podcast


Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.


Who made this episode possible?

PJ Caposey, Superintendent

  1. Meridian School District


Barbara Mullen, Superintendent

  1. Rush-Henrietta Central School District


Nick Ouellette, Superintendent

  1. Hudson School District


John Robidoux, Superintendent

  1. Swansea Public Schools


Jesse Steiner, Superintendent

  1. Northwestern Local Schools


Karen Cheser, Superintendent

  1. Durango School District 9-R


Dr. Brian Yearwood, Superintendent

  1. Columbia Public Schools


Charles Johns, Superintendent

  1. Glenbrook High School District 225


Claudia Avery, Deputy Superintendent

  1. Fairfield County School District


Sandy Strayer, Superintendent

  1. Henry County Public Schools


Dale Olinger, Superintendent

  1. Lolo School District 7


Mike Slagle, Superintendent

  1. Raymore-Peculiar School District


Sharon Kherat, Superintendent

  1. Peoria Public Schools District 150


Ed Nichols, Superintendent

  1. Madison City Schools


Thomas Bongiovi, Superintendent

  1. Orange-Ulster Boces


Tricia Mooney, Superintendent

  1. Hermiston School District


Peter Finch, Superintendent

  1. West Valley School District


Mike Toole, Assistant Principal

  1. Highlands Elementary School


Edward Manuszak, Executive Director

  1. Washtenaw ISD


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