The Better Learning Podcast is about improving education at all levels - Schools (public, charter, private, independent), Higher Education, & Corporate/Adult Learning. The major theme is to break down the silos and learn from others doing innovative things in education. We highlight innovative programs & initiatives, lessons learned, improvements to educational space, and real-world tactics while getting a deeper understanding of the people behind the innovation. Our guests include Heads of Schools, Superintendents, Principals, Entrepreneurs, Non-profit leaders and other innovators. Hosted by Kevin Stoller, CEO of & author of Creating Better Learning Environments.



March 4, 2021

This is a discussion from a local podcast in Arizona with host Alicia Haygood, Kevin Stoller, and Scottsdale Unified School District Superintendent Dr. Scott Menzel. Topics include:

  • Taking Over as Superintendent During COVID
  • Leading Through Chaos
  • Changing the Culture
  • Building Community Support
  • Addressing the Competition between Public Districts and Charter Schools


We also discuss the value of Superintendents having an outlet of peers to work through personal and professional issues. What is Education Leaders' Organization? ELO is aimed to reduce the turnover in leadership roles by focusing on personal development, as well as professional development.

If you know a school leader that would benefit from a peer-to-peer confidential group, nominate them today at

Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at


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